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What is Nirvana [Aug. 26th, 2005|07:47 pm]
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What is Nirvana?

Nirvana an enlightenment of the consciousness; let me elaborate on that: our bodies are animal and have their corresponding passions and instincts, this body and its impulses I will call the lower animal self. What distinguishes us from animals is our self-consciousness, our memory and our ability to think abstractly and reflect. This light of consciousness is within every member of our race. Now this consciousness for the average man is stuck in its mind, body, and sense consciousness. The body and mind have their likes and dislikes, attractions and aversions, and these all bring duality and lack of peace, because if we don't get what we 'desire' we lack peace. Unfortunately most of the time we don't get what we desire, the Buddha taught that the cause of suffering is 'wanting' something we don't have, and having something we don't 'want'. The key word in this is want i.e. desire. When one can withdraw his consciousness from his minds addictions to the inclinations of his senses, passions, and animal instincts, then one has begun half the battle. We tend to want pleasure and not want pain, when one becomes indifferent to pleasure and pain, when one conquers the pleasure principle then he can begin to master himself. After this is done the attachment to the sexual impulse must be controlled, and then the body is mastered. Once the mind has gained detachment to its body and is no longer under the sway of its impulses and addictions, then it must conquer itself. "The mind is the great slayer of the real, let the disciple slay the slayer" - The Voice of the Silence. Now comes meditation, a prolonged abstraction of the mind from the mind, its personal self, and the physical plain. There is no longer an addiction to sense-consciousness yet it is still the main event. When one through advanced meditations reaches higher and subtler states of consciousness having nothing to do with its personal self and sensory-consciousness, then one is ready to annihilate the ego-entity. When contemplated this path may feel as if it is the height of self destruction, and it is. It is the self destruction of the conditioned personality who most of his life was under the control of outside influences, totally conditioned by its environment, its family, friends, society, religion, and culture. Once this self is destroyed a newer truer self can be rebuilt, truer in the sense that you made him your self consciously from scratch as you willed it. The old self was a collection of ideas and experiences, of unconscious forces out of its control, imprinted by experiences it had no control over (mostly under the age of 7), the new self isn't. Once this new yet still illusory self is created one can now use it much easier to its own advantage, it can become conducive to the higher life, the Mystic way, the inward and upper path. Now it can more easily do what it must now do, the final act, the systematic annihilation of the personal self, the ego-entity, the sense of "I" and "mine". This ego-entity caries a big burden, it has hopes and dreams, it wants to get its way, it wants to also control 'everything', it has its thoughts and the thoughts have their own habits and ways of thinking and reacting. Now when the higher self has abstracted its mind from its mind enough through meditation, this should lead to nirvana. When the mind is transcended then there can no long be suffering and misery. Most of our misery is either from the body and its pain and sicknesses, and from the mind-plain and all its tortures. When these are out of the way how can there be misery? Now the consciousness is abiding in its true self and can now start the task of raising itself higher and higher to reach one of its highest states, nirvana. Sages say that the Nirvanic consciousness is on this cosmic plane of supreme cognition, it is essentially ceaselessly functioning on unseen plains of ideation mirroring universal states of consciousness. It is also a state of consciousness having nothing to do with "name and form." Just some musings, hope it sounded logical and scientific. Namaste!
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[User Picture]From: pink_goddess996
2005-08-29 09:12 am (UTC)
Interesting concept, although I have allways translated it a little bit diffrent. One cannot eliminate neccesity. It is what we need to sustain our life, food, water, going to the bathroom, breathing. I have allways thought that the concept was first realizing the diffrence between desires and neccesitys, and secondly not letting your desires controll you. Realize what you desire, ask yourself why, realize it is not a neccesity and move on. There is no way of eliminating desires, they are in a sense a part of our self consciousness. What makes us diffrent from animals. With out our self reflective abilitys we would never be able to make it to Nirvana. You have to have the desire to reach Nirvana to actually rach Nirvana.
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From: bardia
2005-08-29 09:29 am (UTC)
Do you have the desire?
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[User Picture]From: pink_goddess996
2005-08-29 10:26 pm (UTC)
Hmmm, not so much.
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